Created Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:53:31 +0000 by mitchjp
Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:53:31 +0000
Had to add an RS422 transceiver onto a custom shield and I'm debugging away when I realise the 5v pin on the my max32 is showing at 3.3v.
Bit weird. Unplugged everything I have in it, tried again.
Normally I run from a 12v battery.. when I tried with USB it showed 5v.
I thought the 5v reg powered the 3.3v reg?
Am i missing something?
EDIT: This is ALL of the 5v pins. J7 and J10 EDIT2: The jumper for the regulator is in the REG position.
Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:06:42 +0000
It sounds like you might have one of the ones with the wrong regulator.
Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:08:26 +0000
Thanks for the reply.
What a pain! Oh well, I guess I'll contact them and get it sorted. I only bought this recently. Must of been in stock for a while.
Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:11:50 +0000
How's your soldering? A replacement regulator costs about 20p. It's also a regulator I keep in stock in my parts trays, as it's a very common one and one I use in many of my own products.
Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:18:27 +0000
Hmm well I can solder it on. Just need to buy the part. Or maybe my work will have one in spare somewhere.. I could just put any old 5v reg before and BYP the regulator but I have already created my custom shield and theres not a lot of room on there.
I guess it is probably more of a pain for Chipkit to have to send me a new one, rather than me not be a lazy sod and just do it myself haha.
Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:23:10 +0000
Heh. I'd be surprised if you didn't have one at work, or one in some other scrap device you could scavenge one from. The 1117's are probably the second most fixed voltage regulators around, after the LM7805. Maybe even the most common these days actually. They're made by everyone from Diodes INC, through ON Semiconductors, right up to ST Micro and Texas Instruments. Just doing a search for "1117" on Farnell UK, and filtering for 5V output and SOT-223 yields 32 products (not all in stock though)...
Tue, 25 Feb 2014 01:25:00 +0000
Yep, just ordered a couple. (Of course we have plenty of them in stock here... but they are the 3.3v ones.... ahh)
Should be here by tomorrow and ill do it then and mention here that it's ok.
Wed, 26 Feb 2014 22:58:20 +0000
Adding the new one on. Seems to work OK. Thanks again.
How hot should the 3v3 reg get? When I am putting 12v into the barrel it gets really hot. Too hot to touch. Is this normal?
Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:12:26 +0000
Is this the 3.3V regulator you're removing, or the existing 3.3V regulator that is meant to be 3.3V?
If the former, yes, you can expect that to get hot when run off 12V. Linear regulators waste their excess voltage as heat, and 12->3.3 is quite a large drop for a linear regulator. Even 12->5 is quite large, depending on current draw (the higher the current the more heat you'll get).
Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:31:21 +0000
Sorry, I meant the 3.3 that is supposed to be on there.
It would drop 12 -> 5 -> 3.3, right?
Total current cons is about 160 mA.
Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:35:17 +0000
It should be dropping 5V -> 3.3V, yes - assuming the 5V is actually 5V now ;)
5 - 3.3 = 1.7
1.7 * 0.16 = 272mW
That shouldn't be getting TOO hot, but you would expect some heat there...
Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:58:11 +0000
Ok so the 5v is also getting very hot. I am guessing it's ok. It's rated up to 120 degrees C so shouldn't be a problem I would guess...
Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:59:08 +0000
Sorry just read that now. Yep the 3.3 is getting warm. But not too crazy. It's the 5v which i must of touched which was hot to the touch.
Thank you a lot majenko you always have the answers for my questions!!!
Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:09:41 +0000
Yeah, off 12V you can expect the 5V to get rather warm. 12-5 = 7, 7 * 0.16 = 1.12W.